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@Elaine Are you wanting to smoke onboard a cruise or are you wanting a smoke-free casino experience? I'm confused by your question. Most ships have a designated smoking area. Personally, I love a smoke-free casino. I will avoid walking through the casino if smoking is permitted. I believe smoking in an inclosed area is the absolute worst! 

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I was looking for feedback on what others would think of cruiseship casinos if they were all made non smoking. Would smokers still gamble? Would non smokers go in casino more? I am a non smoker and love to gamble but just can't endure the smoke any more. In addition to the larger/main casino on Carnival ships, there are very few that also have a small non smoking casino separate from the main one. Having a separate side of the  room for non smoking slots and some non smoking tables in the main room just does not keep the smoke away. Having signs posted saying you can only smoke in casino if you are actively playing doesnt work either. Those signs aren't read they are ignored and that rule isn't enforced nor is it feasibleto enforce it. I'm not against smokers being allowed to smoke in casino, but I also believe all ships should have a separate room for non smokers so that they can get away from the 2nd hand smoke and the smell. Therefore,  I am looking for people's opinion on the issue and their thoughts on both.

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@Elaine   This reactivated some long, lost memory brain cells! In November 1998, Carnival Paradise was placed in service as the first NON-SMOKING CRUISE SHIP. It lasted until December 2003, when Carnival decided the ship was losing too much revenue. For details, see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_Paradise

Would some major cruise line try this again today? Not likely with the current bookings demand.

I, for one, would like to see non-smoking casinos, the best one can hope for today are separate smoking / non-smoking areas.

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@Elaine This is an awesome question! I have a strong personal opinion on this topic. Answers will be such a "gamble," varying from person to person. I am much like you! If all cruise ship casinos were non-smoking I would spend so much more time there! I'm very anti-cigarette only due to the harmful effects of first, second, and third hand smoking. The non-smoking area in casinos is still exposed to smoke, and I don't want to play there due to the cross contamination. 

Many gamblers are smokers. Historically the two activities go hand-in-hand. It's unfortunate that smoking casinos are indoors and not in outdoor/well-ventilated spaces. My personal perspective is, smoking casinos should be outdoors/well-ventilated and non-smoking casinos can be indoors or in a separate corridor away from potential second-hand smoke exposure. Do you agree with that? 

@kefthecruiser That's an awesome response. Typically history repeats itself. Your perspective is very valid. 

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I agree. I was just on Venezia in April and they have a room totally separate. No smoke at all.  A lot smaller room, but I LOVED IT! For health reasons, I want to push subject but don't know how far it will go. I was on Splendor in Australia last September and they DO NOT allow smoking anywhere in casino. It's an Aussie thing. I met some awesome people/fellow gamblers that I sat with every night in casino who were smokers. They took smoke breaks, just like bathroom breaks, held seat at table, and came back to gamble. It did not bother them at all. The dealers loved the casino's no smoking policy in Australia and also the room on Venezia. 

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@Elaine That's a beautiful idea! In fact, I bet you played so much longer in the casino due to that room separation. If I were you, I would opt to cruise more often on Carnival Venezia or cruise on ships that have the same casino layout. Not allowing smoking in the casino probably hurts revenue a bit, but I'm sure guests found ways around it. Guests can always just smoke outside in the designated smoking area in between plays. That's very practical! It must be hard to work in a smoking casino if you don't actively smoke. You are exposed to it all day long! The secondhand smoke is so toxic. I actually feel bad for those that have to endure it. Most casinos are smoking so if you work in that industry it's pretty difficult to avoid. 

Have you seen this news? https://www.cruisehive.com/carnival-cruise-line-partners-for-exclusive-casino-benefits/134844

This Ballys Rewards partnership is actually pretty awesome for casino players.

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Went on the Freedom which had smoking in part of it. You could smell the smoke but nothing like the Vista where it was all smoking  and someone next to you could be blowing smoke, bc they had a tiny non-smoking one. I only like 2 slots games and they weren't in there. 

I wish the big part could be non-smoking and the smaller one smoking. I know revenue was lost when it was all non but how many more non would go there if wasn't so smokey? 

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@Elaine Thanks for the clarification! It sounds like you and I have similar feelings about smoking casinos. I don't find the need to be in a casino but I do enjoy playing here and there when it's smoke free. I can't stand being there if the smell of cigarettes is all around me. The bar is totally fun in the casino too so it's a shame I won't even go there for a drink unless its nonsmoking. You make aa good point about cruising on ships with smoke-free casinos. It's becoming more and more trendy to avoid second hand smoke, and I would imagine smoke free casinos will build in popularity as the older "smoking dominant" generations get older. 

@Missy68 That's a great question. I would go to the casino more often if it was less smokey, or preferably not smoky at all. I think more cruisers than you would think feel the same way. The smoking culture isn't as dominant today as it once was. That's mainly because we are more aware about the harmful effects of cigarettes. image.thumb.png.da7b19a4c55ad878a383b07f3c03d721.pngWe are entering the vape culture era. I prefer this over cigarettes because it seems to emit way less fumes. 

 

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 Addictive/compulsive people inflate many cash cows. Smoking contaminates an area far beyond imaginary borders, however smokers gamble more than nonsmokers. Drunk, obnoxious passengers contaminate the bar area yet they spend large amounts of money. It's always an interesting balancing act to observe. No matter the decision,  cruise companies will alienate someone. Personally,  I despise smoking, but understand it's huge contributions to the medical field and tax base. Do your research and avoid cruises that don't align with your preferences. There's plenty of choices so don't whine either way. 

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@Elaine That's a great question! I think may non-smoker guests are more attractive to non-smoking casinos, primarily due to the scent. I'm not so sure how popular smoking is anymore, but I don't think it's as popular as in previous decades. The smoking decline plays a big factor in the majority opinion. I would say non-smoking casinos are gaining popularity and will likely take off as the smoking craze dies down. Many people still love smoking while playing so it's hard for me to say if it would be a good financial move for all cruise lines to move entirely towards non-smoking casinos. 

@Seaawgs It's true. There really isn't a one fits all answer. Most casino players are very used to the smoking/drinking culture. Taking those things away could impact key spenders and become less attractive to those that cruise to play. The idea of cruising based on your preferences is the best advice you could give! Some cruise lines are more attractive than others, and it all depends on your preferences! If you want to play in a non-smoking casino, cruise on ships/with lines that meet those interests! 

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@KruzingGal It's so unfortunate that most of these casinos are enclosed with no open air. I would feel so differently if there was at least a little bit of ventilation! The secondhand smoke is seriously embedded in the carpets. Smoking in an open aired, designated area isn't that difficult. The difference between smoking and drinking is really the impact of others around you. If you are drinking next to someone, you aren't harming the other person (hopefully), but if you are smoking next to someone, you are harming them by exposing them to serious toxins in the air. Did you see that CCL had to crack down on the smoking hacks guests were sharing to the public? You aren't supposed to smoke on the balconies but apparently guests have found ways around it. Breaking the rules can earn you a fine of up to $500 per offense, or worse, you could be asked to leave the ship.

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